What men think: Rate that Girl!

“Rate that girl 1 to 10!”

“Yeah! Lucy was like a Ferrari, man! But Megan is like a Ford Focus! HA HA HA HA~”

“I would give her an ‘A’ for face and a ‘B’ for body. Overall, she’s like a ‘B +’.”

“Yeah. She was definitely ‘Moped Status’. Fun to ride, but embarrassing to be seen on.”

I’m sure my female audience is fuming by this point, but I’m not here to make people feel good. My goal is to educate you on what men think. You may or may not understand the psyche or reasoning behind their behavior, but expecting men to change because you don’t understand them is not going to happen. Much in the same way, women are not going to change the way they think because a man doesn’t understand them. I want to make this quite clear, because I find many of my readers arguing points that I cannot control. Not in myself, and not in any other man. Stop trying to change men. You cannot make someone change. People can only change, because they them-self wish to change and make the change.

So, what am I trying to get at with this post? The rating of a female based on numbers, letter grades, or analogies is quite common. Every group of guy friends has their own intricate system of rating. Women will eventually have some interaction with a form of “Rate that Girl!” What I hope to educate you on is the mentality behind this behavior and not the justice or reasoning.

As I have stated many times before, men are visually oriented. Regardless of whether he is a religious man, disciplined man, or rampant nymphomaniac, he will turn his head when a beautiful and sexy woman enters his field of vision. This does not mean that he will continue to stare or examine. ONLY, that he will take notice whether he wishes to or not. The only men who do not take notice would be perhaps homosexual men, (but even they might take notice of the competition). I really don’t care to hear your arguments on how you as a man DON’T do this or you as a woman find this offensive. Please, refrain from commenting with that information as it is not constructive to this discussion.

Now that we have stated that men are visual creatures, lets figure out how that correlates to this practice using ratings. Given that men are visually oriented, they tend to have very good visual imagination (when it comes to the female face and form). The rating system is a means for them to communicate what they have seen with eachother. It allows them to develop a common understanding of what they as a group find attractive. While one group of men might rate a woman at a “7/10″, a different group might view the same woman as a “4/10″. The rating itself is relative to the group of men who have developed it. Understanding the relativity of the rating systems in use is key in this discussion.

Women have a natural desire for verbal affirmation. Because of this desire, they may ask a man for his “rating” of her. Please, do not do this. There are a few things inherently wrong with this question. First, the rating system can rarely quantify non-physical attributes of a woman. Some ratings attempt to integrate relational value into the mental calculation, but because that is relative on an individual basis (rather than a group basis) it destroys the usability of the system. For example, if my female friend and I are very close and my male friend asks me to describe her based on rating, I would have to give him a rating based only on her appearance. I cannot integrate the positive experiences and associations of our relationship, because my male friend does not have those relational experiences with my female friend. When you ask a man to to rate you, be prepared for a contaminated answer (because he does not want to give you the honest one if he is truly your friend. It doesn’t do you justice in his eyes). He will most likely not be fully honest, because it really isn’t a good representation of his esteem or affinity towards you as a woman. Second, asking a man to rate you on a physical level is reverting back to step one in meeting a man, physical attraction. Why would you want to take leaps and bounds backwards? It is not constructive; it is destructive.

I have witnessed female friends accidentally learn how they have been rated by men and become emotionally distraught. Sometimes they actively sought it out, and become emotionally distraught. If either of these scenarios has happened (or happens) to you, please be knowledgeable and understanding. Yes, men are visual and their analysis of your appearance can be a bit shocking. However, this is nothing personal towards you or how they view you as a friend. As far as romance? Yes, it is huge. It might suck if you find your crush has rated you as a “3/10″, but guess what? That’s life. Women turn men down all the time. Women even feel entitled to sit back and wait for the man to make the first move and then reject them. I am a firm believer in equality. If you feel that as a woman you are entitled to say, “I’m really not attracted to you in that way”, men have the same right. Just because their reasons are physical shouldn’t make them shallow jerks. Men cannot help if they do not find you attractive. PERIOD. Again, its not something we can control and it doesn’t mean that we don’t like you or respect you as a person.

So I say, “Fair is fair.”

(This post is dedicated to “Sliced Bread”)

20 Responses to “What men think: Rate that Girl!”

  1. I think this is great! Also, in my experiences us ladies do this, too.

  2. hautepocket:

    Oh I’m sure they do. But in my understanding, women aren’t quite as harsh on physical appearance. They have like a 2 rating systemn where one is quantitative and one is qualitative.

    I’m not sure, I may be wrong.

  3. Thanks WMT for writing on my suggestion/question! I appreciate your honesty and desire to provide realistic responses to an often naive and/or jaded female populace. I usually dislike blogs, but I make an exception to read yours. :)

  4. Sliced Bread:

    Thank you for the constant inspiration.

  5. Girls do this kind of thing too. Except instead of making up all sorts of stupid analogies we just say, he’s hot, he’s decent, he’s chubby etc… we like to keep it short and sweet lol. We might throw in a few descriptive facial expressions too.

    I must say, I was a little disapointed to see my name associated with Ford Focus. Lucy is a not so common name… Megan… kinda is. Let’s pick names like Darla or Bertha or something next time please ;o)

  6. missmegs:

    I repeat myself, again. It may sound like a stupid analogy to a woman, but that doesn’t change that it is vital way of how men communicate as visually oriented creatures. Keeping it short works for women, but men want the details and the analogies that help describe those details.

    Knowledge promotes understanding.

    Darla and Bertha are the names of my closest female friends…. J/K I apologize, but I cannot foresee who will read my blog.

  7. Sad but true.

  8. Women never fail to amaze me. Not only do they ask stupid questions like “does my butt look big in this?”, they also ask men to rate them?

    Yuck.

    I turn the table on men and ask them to rate OTHER men. You should watch them squirm. “Yeah”.

    “Yeah what?”

    “Yeah, he’s very handsome, I suppose”

    “So he’s a 10?”

    “I don’t know, I’m a man!”

    lol.

    When I am with my friends, I rate the men I date cus I am a visual creature and I make no apologies for it. I just don’t do it to their face.

    x

    C a r a H u r l e y

    from Blogspot

    PS: WMT, you’ve a few extra comments in your guest blog.

    http://tinyurl.com/2fanfe

  9. Cara:

    Yes, the rating should always be a personal/secretive thing.

  10. “I really don’t care to hear your arguments on how you as a man DON’T do this or you as a woman find this offensive. Please, refrain from commenting with that information as it is not constructive to this discussion.”

    I like a man who takes charge ;) Such as your statement above, telling us what we can and cannot comment :) A turn on. Tee hee.

    I know, this has nothing to do with your post. I have mixed feelings about the whole “men are visual rating thing.” I have no idea what I’ve been “rated” but I’m sure its been done. I do know that there are times I like it when a man looks me over (and is rating me silently) and there are times I want to hide. Mostly I like it though. Sorry, but getting positive male attention, to me, is flattering. I suppose if I felt men were rating me poorly, then maybe I wouldn’t like it so much.

    I’ve accepted that men do this. Women do it too. But it’s true, it should be kept to yourself and why any woman would ask what her “rating” is is beyond me.

  11. Brenda:

    =) Sadly, some men think they should be submissive and weak. Men, hear that? Take charge. Be assertive.

    Thanks for the comment!

  12. What I learnt new from this post is that different groups of guys have different ratings.. but it’s not that surprizing either.

    To be honest, I think if a girl is happy, confident and healthy enough, she won’t really care what guys rate/think of her because she can keep her own standards up :]

  13. aporia:
    Very true.

  14. I like to rate women all the time with my male friends. I guess that just shows my level of sophistication. Jokes.

    But really, the rating system is overrated. No jokes intended. The scale is always different (like you mention in your post) and it’s really not the best way to describe someone of the opposite sex. I’d rather receive an adjective than a numeral figure. For example, stating that you think a girl is a bitch and giving the reasons why is way better than giving her a 4/10. Details. Communication. Etc.

  15. This should be what “boys” think. Call me naive but I don’t think you could possibly be speaking for all men.

    I agree with Aporia 100%. I wouldn’t give a guy who was rating me with his buddies the time of day. Sounds sooooo juvenile. Like something the dorky guys in the corner would be doing.

    But, hey, maybe I’m just naive. And yes, you’re right we all like flattery. Just wish more men knew how to deliver truly flattering compliments. Now, that’s a tough one!

  16. mssinglemama:

    I am speaking of all men. You equate the way men interact with each other as immature? You have to realize that men and women are not the same. A man telling his friend about his beautiful date and using different analogies and references to rate/describe her is the EXACT male counter-part to you describing a man to your girl friends in the way women describe men. Just because men are different from women DOES NOT mean that they are immature or stupid. Men and women are different. That is not something we are just now learning. Its something we’ve known for a while.

  17. Fitch Faces! Haha.

  18. Andrew:

    hahaha, took a moment for me to realize/remember what you were speaking of.

  19. In my 20s I would rate women with my friends. It was a form of validation, male bonding. Now in my 40s, I don’t assign numeric values, but I still enjoy if a buddy asks how a date went and in telling him I can say she was a hottie. He and I might not agree on what that means, but that’s okay.

    For sure he’s not going to ask about her emotional balance, her spiritual self-awareness, her earning potential, her compassion. Guys don’t talk like that. We’re visual creatures, and can have a superficial conversation about a woman’s looks simply because we don’t want to go into more detail - or we aren’t all able to articulate the deeper feelings going on.

    I personally don’t date a woman just on her looks. Other things pull me in as well - I like a smart, sexy, strong, compassionate, confident woman. Getting into all that in conversation with another guy is too much - he won’t want to hear it.

  20. I had to burst out laughing when I read this post.

    Why? Because just the other day I asked some of my male friends their brutally honest rating of me (I knew they did it, so I got curious and heck, I know what I rate myself, so their opinion is just bonus). Well their rating scales and thus their answers were so diverse that even the guys were arguing over it, and we now jokingly use one of the numbers as my nickname. Thanks for this one.

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